Podcast Ep 4: Predestination, Open Theism & Bacon

To listen to the full podcast, click here >>> https://christiansinmotion.podbean.com/e/predestination-open-theism-bacon/

 

Below are some links that address some of the topics brought up during the podcast

 

Calvinism and the 5 points of Tulip: http://www.ligonier.org/blog/tulip-and-reformed-theology-introduction/

Open Theism: http://reknew.org/2015/10/5-ways-the-bible-supports-open-theism/

Mysteries of the Rosary: http://www.catholic.org/prayers/mystery.php

Arminianism: https://www.theopedia.com/arminianism

 

 

 

6 thoughts on “Podcast Ep 4: Predestination, Open Theism & Bacon

  1. I was finally able to listen to this podcast that you pre-warned me about. I have to say that I agreed with everything Steven said. This is without knowing anything at all about open theism (now of course I will look into it).

    I want you to know that I don’t believe those who believe in TULIP are bad people or not Christians. Every indication is that you are a great person and a believer in Christ and truly searching for the truth.

    The reason I speak out so strongly about Calvinism is because of my cousin and the things I see him focusing on. I believe TULIP pushes people toward things that harm the Christian message and causes us to lose focus and in some ways lower our own personal standards. I also believe that the flaws in TULIP convinces people they are saved because they were chosen and I’m afraid for them. I’m afraid they will go through life thinking there is no reason for them to ever correct a thought they have or action they take because God worked through them to make it happen. I’m afraid that believing that could put them in a seat reserved for someone else, and it could cause them to lose salvation.

    I don’t believe that everyone is saved, but I do believe everyone can be saved. I also believe that once saved it is our responsibility to stay on the path or we will die. Take a look at Acts 5 and Ananias. He was clearly saved and was bringing an offering to the church, but he lied to the spirit of God and died because of it. If God changed his heart, it would have been impossible for him to have decided to do this and what reason would there have been for his death?

    Steven is more knowledgeable than I am at challenging the Calvinist point of view, probably even theologically as a whole. I’m glad you have been talking with him. I don’t know him, but he spoke the truth that I feel in my heart.

    Thanks for posting this.

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    1. I mean, at this point, you have a good idea of where my theology lies. We disagree on some stuff, but I still affirm you (and Stephen) as brothers in Christ and I certainly don’t question your salvation. As time goes on, I’ll be talking more about my theological views (just wrote a post on the inerrancy of Scripture), and you are always welcome to challenge me. As Stephen said, that’s how we grow. Iron sharpens iron, right?

      Additionally, I just want you to know that I know there are many Calvinists that are overly-harsh to a point where they could be pushing others away from Christ. I hope I’ve never come across that way.

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      1. You have not come across that way. However I don’t believe correct theology leads to unchristian behavior. Also, if God chose a Calvinist and controls the way they think and act, none of their beliefs could be wrong or anything but Christian. And apologies to Stephen for spelling his name wrong (just in case he sees and cares).

        Don’t take what i said as God makes you drink from your cup, but rather according to my understanding of Calvinism, God would stop you from drinking from your cup if it was against his will. Essentially a rubber stamp from God on everything you say and do, because if God didn’t like it, you wouldn’t be doing it.

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      2. To be fair, any Christian, regardless of their theology, can behave in a way that is unchristian. Calvinists do still understand that we live in a sinful and fallen world. We believe that nothing happens outside of what God has allowed and that He can, and does, work all things together for good, we still see the effects of sin in our world. Hope this is making sense, but the Calvinist view is NOT that God MADE you sin or MADE YOU behave in a way that doesn’t reflect Christ. This would be blaming God for our disobedience. This is a heavy subject. But, I just wanted to be clear that at least I recognize the call to obedience and I don’t blame God for my sins. ANNNNNND I also don’t think me taking a drink from my cup has anything to do with my eternal salvation. But that’s another topic

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      3. You are right, it has nothing to do with it. There are actions for example that God is neither happy about or angry about. If you choose to wear black shoes tomorrow, he doesn’t care. However, being Kind is in his commandments, and if the cup you are drinking from is your neighbors cup; THEN it’s a problem. It sounds funny, but the circumstances around your cup might make the insignificant change to significant.

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